Koi UFO Video 127: Alien Interview - 1964 (Meni Tsirbas)
[DEBUNKED] Koi UFO Video 127 appears to show an alien-looking being being interviewed. That being claims to be an "evolutionary descendant" of humans, from our future.
As at August 2016, one copy of the video on Youtube has approximately 0.5 million views and one copy of this video on Facebook has now got over 3 million views, having been shared 143,058 times.
Whitley Strieber (author of the book "Communion") wrote an article about this video on 21 August 2016 entitled "Profound Wisdom from an 'Alien Video' by Whitley Strieber" which stated "The material presented in this video is consistent with what I have learned in my close encounter experience over the past 30 years".
In fact, as discussed below, the various copies of this video can easily be traced back to an original upload to Youtube on 6 July 2016 by Canadian visual effects artists Aristomenis Tsirbas ("Meni Tsirbas") of MeniThings Productions. Meni Tsirbas has been a digital artist on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Star Trek: Voyager, Star Trek: Enterprise, various movies (including Hellboy and Titanic) and other projects. This is not his first excursion into the field of ufology. Meni was responsible for direction, animation and lighting of another well-known UFO hoax (see "UFO over Santa Clarita" on the page Koi UFO Video 080). He admitted that hoax and posted a video effects breakdown of it years ago and is well known as the creator of viral/hoax videos. His other uploads to the same Youtube account include an amusing viral video of a flying car. I find it somewhat bemusing that anyone could spent 5 minutes watching the video but not bother spending 1 minute looking into the uploader of the video, which would easily reveal these facts. I'm regularly bemused by the conduct of some people in ufology... So many things within ufology are the basis of speculation when a little bit of work reveals relevant facts. This applies to government documents in various archives as much as it does to "UFO" videos on Youtube. :)
Sections below:
2. Stories and claims relating to this video
3. The real background to this video
4. Relevant online discussions
1. The relevant video
Koi UFO Video 127 appears to show an alien-looking being being interviewed. That being claims to be an "evolutionary descendant" of humans, from our future.
Screen shots from the video are included below for ease of identification:
A transcript of the video is given below:
Interrogator: We Recording? State Planet of origin.
Being: Earth.
Interrogator: Yesterday you told us you traveled... ... and I quote. ..."Thousands of light years to get here."
Being: Yes.
Interrogator: Tell us the truth or (indiscernible).
Being: It is truth.
Being: I am from Earth.
Being: From your future.
Being: To travel in time is to travel in space.
Being: Offset spacial divergence.
Interrogator: So I take it aliens took over our future?
Being: No.
Interrogator: So you're human.
Being: An evolutionary descendant.
Interrogator: So you evolved from us?
Being: Yes.
Interrogator: So what are you doing here? Now?
Being: Observing.
Being: Since evidence was destroyed.
Interrogator: How?
Being: Nuclear war.
Being: Small numbers survived.
Being: Our ancestors.
Interrogator: How about we concentrate on your time.
Being: You are not capable of comprehending... ... or accepting...
Being: ...the discoveries of my time.
Interrogator: Try me.
Being: The origin of the universe... ... the nature of so called life... it is known.
Interrogator: So you know the meaning of life?
Being: Not meaning. Nature.
Interrogator: What's the difference?
Being: Meaning is something that is ascribed.
Being: Nature is the objective reality.
Interrogator: So you know how the universe is created?
Being: Yes.
Interrogator: So you've seen God?
Being: We evolved past a need for superstition.
The need for God and other myths.
Interrogator: Illuminate us.
Interrogator: What happens when we die?
Being: Death is a human construct.
Being: It does not exist.
Being: You will experience... ... and have experienced...
Being: ... every instance of so called life.
Being: You. Me. Him.
Being: We are instances of the same life.
Being: Separated by what you call death.
Interrogator: So let me get this straight.
Interrogator: There is no death... ... and we all experience each other's lives?
Being: In essence, yes.
Interrogator: So, how was the universe created and... ... why is it so perfectly made for us?
Being: There are an infinite number of universes.
Being: Each with different physical properties.
Being: Virtually all do not support life... ... such as you know it.
Being: We exist in a universe that does support... ... so called life.
Being: That is all.
Interrogator: Moving on.
Interrogator: So why do we destroy ourselves with nuclear war?
Being: Dogma.
Interrogator: Can you be more specific?
Being: Political and religious dogma.
Being: It is the root of all major conflict of your species.
Being: In your next century... ... access to weaponry of mass destruction...
Being: ... by states that are ruled by dogma... ... will destroy your species.
Interrogator: One last thing.
Interrogator: What about morality? What do you base your morality on?
Being: Compassion and... ... evidence.
Interrogator: I see.
Interrogator: That's it. Thank you.
(indiscernible)
2. Stories and claims relating to this video
The original caption for this video claimed the following:
"Extraordinary Project Blue Book file film of Alien interviewed in 1964. Subject was named 'EBE-3' and was held captive for 5 days. Subject disappeared from Government records on date of this event."
As at August 2016, one copy of the video on Youtube has approximately 0.5 million views and one copy of this video on Facebook has now got over 3 million views, having been shared 143,058 times.
Whitley Strieber (author of the book "Communion") wrote an article about this video on 21 August 2016 entitled "Profound Wisdom from an 'Alien Video' by Whitley Strieber" which stated "The material presented in this video is consistent with what I have learned in my close encounter experience over the past 30 years".
3. The real background to this video
The various copies of this video can easily be traced back to an original upload to Youtube on 6 July 2016 by Canadian visual effects artists Aristomenis Tsirbas ("Meni Tsirbas") of MeniThings Productions.
Meni Tsirbas' entry on the IMDB website indicates that he acted as a digital artist on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Star Trek: Voyager, Star Trek: Enterprise, various movies (including Hellboy and Titanic) and other projects.
This is not his first excursion into the field of ufology. Meni was responsible for direction, animation and lighting of another well-known UFO hoax (see "UFO over Santa Clarita" on the page Koi UFO Video 080). Koi UFO Video 080 appears to show someone driving on a road through a desert when a UFO flies over the car and towards some power lines before a large UFO mothership suddenly appears and then disappears.
On 17 February 2013, Meni Tsirbas uploaded a further video to Youtube. This video was entitled "UFO Over Santa Clarita VFX Breakdown" and had a caption which stated "A behind-the-scenes look at the viral video "UFO Over Santa Clarita". While most assumed that the UFO's must CGI while everything else was live action footage, in reality everything is computer generated". This video showed the 3d models used for the various elements of the "UFO" video and included extensive credits listing those involved in the creation of the Santa Claritia UFO video.
A few screen-shots from the "breakdown" video published by Meni Tsirbas are included below.
The WPTV website published an article in February 2013 which reported that Meni Tsirbas had admitted that the viral video was a fake.
The "Wired" website published an article in July 2013 about this video, which included an interview with Meni Tsirbas about his creation of the video. That article stated that the Santa Clarita UFO video was a "painstakingly crafted joke" by Meni Tsirbas, and that "Tsirbas and his team spent about four months mimicking the look of an accidental extraterrestrial encounter captured on a smartphone". Tsirbas told Wired that “The point of the video was to prove that CGI can look natural and convincing”. Tsirbas also told Wired that “Everybody assumes the background and car are real, and that the UFOs are probably fake, especially the over-the-top mothership at the end. The general reaction is disbelief, so I usually have to prove it by showing a wireframe of the entire shot to prove that nothing is real". Making the photorealistic car and desert environment was "even more difficult than crafting the alien crafts, and took the lion’s share of effort...".
One of the subsequent viral CGI videos produced by Meni Tsirbas' is entitled "Flying Car - Leaked Video".
I find it somewhat bemusing that anyone could spent 5 minutes watching the "Alien interview" video but not bother spending 1 minute looking into the uploader of the video, which would easily reveal these facts.
I'm regularly bemused by the conduct of some people in ufology... So many things within ufology are the basis of speculation when a little bit of work reveals relevant facts. This applies to government documents in various archives as much as it does to "UFO" videos on Youtube.
Most of ufology isn't rocket science. :)
4. Relevant online discussions
Relevant online discussions of this video include:
2016 (August) discussion on the AboveTopSecret forum entitled "New Alleged Area 51 tape with alien. Claims to be human from future"
